Ron Paul FOX 9/5/2007 Footage

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CNN Seeks Ron Paul-Huckabee Debate
Thursday, September 06, 2007 - FreeMarketNews.com

After the recent FoxTV-managed GOP debate fireworks in New Hampshire, CNN is actively seeking to set up an "immediate" further debate between Ron Paul (R-Tex) and former governor and presidential candidate Mike Huckabee (AR). Huckabee has already accepted, certain presidential campaign observers say. And these sources add that the Ron Paul’s campaign is close to accepting as well, if the head-to-head discussion is not treated as a “sound bite” and lasts longer than a few minutes. It is not clear who would moderate such an exchange.

Ron Paul and Huckabee had a sharp exchange of words over the Iraq war during the recent GOP debate, with Ron Paul insisting, as he has throughout his campaign, that the war was a failed policy and that the troops ought to be withdrawn. Huckabee retorted that for the “honor” of the United States, the war must continue. Huckabee’s campaign manager Chip Saltsman said of the exchange: "Governor Huckabee clearly had a break-out moment during his exchange with Congressman Ron Paul during [the] debate - which illuminated his leadership qualities, experience, dedication to principle, and vision for a unified America.”

Saltsman's opinion was echoed by some who seemed - following the debate - to give Huckabee the victory; however several GOP debate polls showed that Ron Paul won the overall debate handily, including Fox’s own cell-text poll. Ron Paul is a classical conservative in the Jeffersonian tradition and does not believe in aggressive military confrontations overseas without strong provocation. He hews to the minimalist tradition of government. His views have seen increasing mainstream acceptance during the nascent presidential campaign and his fund-raising continues to strengthen.

Close observers of the current campaign scene said that it is apparent that Huckabee is running out of money and was looking for a confrontation such as the one that developed in the hopes of raising his profile – and additional cash. These sources add that Huckabee has apparently adopted the strongly pro-war line of presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani in the hopes of being considered as a vice-presidential running mate for Giuliani. The mainstream press currently considers Giuliani to be the current Republican front-runner.

Let's not worry to much about FoxNews being fair and balanced. We all know their not. They are getting desperate. Resorting to attacks and and mockery.

I think this was a very significant day for Ron Paul and put his nomination with in reach.
* Ron Paul won the text vote. (An improvement from last time) And it wasn't even close.
* The vote was legit since you could only vote once
* Ron Paul was able to speak the truth
* FoxNews gave Paul much more air time than last time.
* Other Candidates had to address and recognize Ron Paul and a real candidate and threat. Huckabee already said the Paul was real competition on the Cobert Report.

Two other hidden blessings
**Huckabee did well (according to the polls) and is now a threat to the *Big Three*
**Fred Thompson is in the race now.

Both of which help dilute the shrinking pro-war vote of the shrinking republican party.

I am very pleased. A Ron Paul victory in the primaries is within reach!

I noticed that about a half hour passed before Dr. Paul was asked to speak. The others had gone through several rounds by that time.

Also, Guiliani's chuckling over Dr. Paul has prompted me to dig my Rudy-2008 campaign contribution business-reply envelope out of the recycle bin and mail it back empty.

I was so looking forward to the debate but it wasn't on in my area. I watched the Canadian channel and they had "Fahrenheit 9-ll on and it was the first time I saw it. Wow, I thought it was very good. I was so happy to see that you post the debate. To be honest I would really like to know just how many people got to see the debate but from what I have seen here Dr. Paul was wonderful as usual. I cannot get over how down right disrespectful they are to Dr. Paul. Dr. Paul held up like true champ under such horrible conditions.
My admiration for Dr. Paul just grows and grows I wish I was more like him, what a wonderful role model.

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What Dr. Paul said was right and good, but I wish he would not flail his arms around. Some may find it real and charming, but I think he would profit by a debate coach. John Kennedy was a masterful speaker who would, occasionally, point for effect. These are public speaking basics.

There is a famous clip of Benito Mussolini, standing on a Rome balcony, looking smug and self-impressed, folding his arms in an arrogant way. That is what came to mind when the Fox video put a shot of Giuliani alongside Dr. Paul.

Also re: Giuliani. Some weeks before 911, Time magazine ran a cover story about him: "America's Worst Mayor."

My brother-n-law watched the debate with me. He is from Japan and hasn't been following any political campaign. He made a comment about Huckabee while Hannes and Combs was interviewing him.
He said, Huckabee sounded like a dictator because of the comment The American people should stand behind the president. He said, I thought the government was supposed to be for the people.
Oh wait.. he received his history and education in another country.
When will America wake up!

It sounded like Romney and Giuliani laughing the whole time. The attacks everyone made against Ron's comments were immature and unbiased.. but it's alright. He won the debate and the people know it.

Hi all,

fox news is nothing but a horse and pony show. That is why the Democrats will not do a debate on that network. Nothing but tabloid. The Republicans should do the same.

I'll make you this promise, because I support Kucinich and my husband supports Paul, if my candidate doesn't do well I will support Ron Paul in the primaries.

I couldn't believe I was up of the couch cheering for this man. I only do that for football games. I can't believe the truth came out last night on national TV. The networks do the same to Kucinich....but they have never disrespected him like they did Dr. Paul last night.

I called my Mom last night (who is a Paul supporter in NY) and she was disgusted with the laughing and snickering.

Good Luck you guys...I'm with you!!!

You guys are hilarious! Fair and balanced my ass. I’ve never seen such blatant bias against Ron Paul. When this country gets turned around to a Republic once more, all of you will have to find a different line of work.

Sincerely, Gina Giardino

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can
change the world; indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead

I just realized that one more good thing happend last night.
Pro-war vote became dilluted even further by RP-Huck exchange.
Not only Fred get to the tier of warmongers, but also Huck aspired to get there and, I believe, he succeeded.
So, instead 3 major warmongers we've got 5.
Things are getting better.
And now Michigan has open primary, too.

Ron Paul did an axcellent job standing up to the soviets last night. He created quite a stir that was both fun and uneasy to watch.
We are dealing with the murderers of JFK and Abraham Linclon here. Not an easy gang to overcome. But it can be done. And it is being done. Slow but sure. Time takes time.
It is interesting to listen to Ron Pauls opponents. I have heard it said more than once in the past that people will eventually beg for their chains. They speak out against their own well being. Their own liberty is to be sacrificed on the alter of security (which definition?).
We are where we are. Liberty won't happen overnight. Keep on keeping on.
GO RON PAUL!!!

Tyrrany, like hell, is not easily conquered.
Thomas Paine.

Not sure what some of you militant "Paulestinians" are talking about. If that was Giuliani laughing derisively, then FOX didn't help him at all. They let him make a fool of himself. I'm not sure why some of are so uptight about the coverage. A food critic doesn't need to eat the entire meal to know if the restaurant and chef are any good. "We should take marching orders from our Constitution" is the sound bite the campaign is waiting for. That could not have been scripted any better.

It's so obvious that Fox does not want to see Rep. Paul get any traction. The more they dish on Ron, the deeper my resolve becomes in supporting him. I hope it keeps on backfiring on them, and more Americans wake up to this injustice, and ask themselves: Why are they doing this. Fox News, along with their croonies, is what's wrong with America. How about "Fair and Balanced" as a big lie for starters. It's disgusting how they favor the other candidates. If I could get the ear of a Fox News executive, I'd give him a few choice words.

Advice for Ron: Keep your cool, dude.........you've got truth on your side. The others are self destructing on their own....i.e. Rudy, Romney. Take the others out to deep water, and openly challenge the Federal Reserve and Income Taxation. See if they can swim with you out there!

Isn't it refreshing to see Ron become more of a lightning rod for all the moderators? He's getting mentioned more and more for his intractable stance on issues. Even though the moderators intent is paint Ron like a "quack", others, like myself, see real character for a change.

A real conservative uses the Constitution as his governing guidebook. Any deviation from such, is an exploit in liberalism. The other candidates can call themselves whatever they want, but they're not "conservatives".

I just love how Hannity and Limbaugh love to crow about how conservative they are. They use a definition that doesn't involve the US Constitution. I don't think either one of them has ever read the US Constitution and our Bill of Rights.

Forget the soundbites of following the footsteps of Reagan and other modern day politicians....drop names like: John Hancock, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton and the rest on the original "beltway" gang.

I've been thinking for some time that Dr. Phil should have Dr. Paul on his show to talk about what it's like to be bullied by powerful people, both in congress and on the debates, as he was last night. Dr. Paul consistently shows how to keep his own goals in mind and not be sidetracked.

I think I'll go visit Dr. Phil's website and suggest it.

Dr. Phil, himself, much as I'm sure he'd like to tell everyone what to do (who wouldn't?), always gets permission, first, much like our system of government is supposed to. I think it would be a good show.

IMissLiberty

Mike Huckabee (who I actually "liked" before this debate) seemed to be referring to our military as the Samurai of Feudal Japan with his references to "death before dishonor" and "saving face." I was also reminded of the words of Spartan women when sending their husbands off to war, "Either return with your shield or on it." Is this what Huckabee is saying?! Have we become so egotistical and flippant with our men and women in uniform as to tell our own troops, "We care more about OUR honor than YOUR lives?!" If we are looking at military history, why not look at the Rule Book still taught in most military colleges and settings, the writings of Sun Tzu, "The Art of War":

"Invicibility is defense. Vincibility is attack. Defend and one has a surplus. Attack and one is insufficient."

"One who does not thoroughly know the harm from employing the military cannot thoroughly know the advantage from employing the military."

"There are roads one does not follow. There are armies one does not strike. There are cities one does not attack. There are grounds one does not contest. There are commands of the sovereign (president) one does not accept."

These writings are still taught at the War College, West Point, Annapolis and others, which is probably why so many generals have opposed Bush publicly. THEY KNOW BETTER! But obviously Fox and the other candidates need to do some additional reading. Sorry Ron, maybe another "recommended reading list" is needed for these militaristic morons.

The exchange involving Dr. Paul and Mr. Huckabee actually reveals volumes - especially that Huckabee is cut from the same cloth as G- (and all the others). To distill some of the comments:

Huckabee: We've got to keep status quo.
RP: The status quo is running off our eligible voting base.
Huckabee: We've got to keep our honor and stay loyal to the revamped platform, even if it means only garnering 10% of the voting public.

Huckabee showed us quite clearly that he and the other neo-cons do not believe that the people of the country have a right to determine our government's policies. What conceit: even if those all-knowing also-rans that were on-stage (or with Leno) were right that we've got to war with the middle east in the middle east, if 70% of the public say they don't agree, then it is the politicians' duty to stop these activities, no matter how dumb or unwashed they think the electorate is. C'est ca.

One thing is certain.
My hero, Ron Paul is no sissy.
He can fight.