We must make sure the delegates in St. Paul know about the election fraud. The delegates must know that the popular elections do NOT express or reflect the true will of the people because they are fixed.
New Hampshire, Louisiana, Montana, Nevada, Washington...
If ALL the delegates are educated and informed about the corruption and fraud within our election process, they will be that much more likely to rEVOLT on the convention floor in St. Paul, MN at the RNC.
The early primary and caucus results from the 2008 election cannot be trusted.
We must connect the Rove fraud with the most recent elections, not 2004.
In the 40's and 50's when people where so trusting these people where sending jesuit's into churches and moving up through the organitations and getting into baptizmal records and also bringing in new beliefs into the church. They have divided people in this country into so many little parts. They are the ones who introduced the belief that all the prophecies for the end time actually happend back in the romans time and the only thing left to happen was the rapture before the final 7 years (pre trib)
If you only read the first piece of this and didn't click on the headline you missed alot of information here. www.bradblog.com/?p=6189#...
This is extremely important news, if we never get rid of "electronic voting" we will never truly have free elections. Also, is quite interesting that here in Ohio the Attorney General that was in office when the case was started is now no longer the Ohio Attorney General... due to a sex scandal. Hmm! Makes you wonder.
I understand that Rove's attorney informed the Judiciary Committee that he had a "business meeting" out of the country!!! HAHAHAHA, wonder how long that meeting will last?
I've seen this happen many times, WHAT GOES AROUND, COMES AROUND, eventually!
will eliminate corruption because representatives will be immediately accountable to the people.
There will be no elections. Every person has one vote. They can either give their vote to a representative or vote directly. Representatives will have power based on the number of votes they receive.
We already have a great system of representation for both the people and the states... it's outlined in the U.S. Constitution. Our politicians just ignore it.
For example...
Did you know that the 2 senators from each state are not supposed to be elected by popular vote, but rather selected by the state legislature? This is to help protect state's rights. The states are supposed to be represented by the senators, and the people represented by the representatives in the House.
"One of the greatest checks provided by the Framers to prevent the national government from taking power from the states was the Senate. Article 1: Section 3 of the Constitution mandated that "The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state, chosen by the Legislature thereof." This was done for a variety of reasons. One of those reasons was to provide a link between the state governments and the federal government. The senators would be expected to represent the interests of the states. The Senate would have the power to stop any law proposed by the House of Representatives that would allow the federal government to exercise control over the states.
Unfortunately, this important check was eliminated in 1913 by the Seventeenth Amendment. That amendment mandated that senators be chosen directly by the people, a provision that many of the Framers warned would be destructive of the balance of power between the national government and the states. Fisher Ames, a member of the Massachusetts state convention to ratify the Constitution and later a member of the House of Representatives, warned the direct election of senators by the people would "totally obliterate the federal features of the Constitution. What would become of the state governments, and on whom would devolve the duty of defending them against the encroachments of the federal government?"
This mistake has made it much more possible for all three branches of the federal government to exercise more authority over the states. The result has been a larger, more intrusive, and less efficient national government. The growth of the federal government has also served to greatly weaken the power of the states. Originally, the national government was to be dependent on the states. Gradually, that balance has been lost as states have become increasingly more dependent on the federal government.
A crucial step in returning power to the states is the repeal of the Seventeenth Amendment. It is also essential that the states become more independent and resist attempts of the federal government to extend its power into areas in which the states should be responsible. This would help reduce the size of the federal government and increase the freedom of American citizens."
All of our problems stem from not following our own constitution. The following video that shows why we need to follow it if we're ever going to be a free republic, and also why direct democracy is a bad idea...
and I agree it is a very interesting proposition. I am thinking it is only a possibility after we have installed Ron Paul in the White House. In other words, with this corrupt government, it would be hard to get this passed. Of course, with our voter fraud, it is probably not JUST the elections that have been hijacked. Any vote that did not go the way they wanted it, has also probably been changed to be in line with their plan.
I've been saying this movement and all third parties absolutely must get rid of the voting system or all is for naught. That goes for November. We have to have 100% Exit Poll, or Paper Ballots that are three ply with someone besides the parties counting the votes. I cannot believe we let these crooked parties count the votes.
A 100% exit poll should have been organized before the primaries, but instead we had a useless call the vote in that we wasted our time on.
This is the time when everything that was being suppressed will start to come out into the open. A couple of things that came to mind though was he used to be part of the McCain campaign? I wonder what happened there. Second, if it is proven that Bush was put into office as a result of election fraud, would that mean that everything that he made into law would be nill and void (like a fraudulant contract) ? Any great DP legal minds out there? It would sure change a lot of things, such as "just come home", the Patriot Act, etc, etc, etc.
We have needed those from the beginning and have none. The attorneys are in the two party system. The Bar Association is one of the organizations in the CFR. The only attorney I know that is one of us is in France!! Colognepaulist who comes on here. Thank goodness there is one attorney in the world at least that I can point to as a decent person. Thank you Colognepaulist for simply existing.
It would be great if this put the crack in their armor to start taking the whole lot of them down. However, I'm not confident they can't evade this one as they have all the rest of their crimes. Its completely lawless in government.
I read Hitchens said Karl Rove is not a Christian, he just pretend to be one,
so you have not know what a liar he is. I do accept there are non-Christians that can be trurthful, but those of you will agree with me that it is very dishonest to portray yourself as a CHristian only to get the confidence and vote of a large amount of voting block.
Karl Rove is only one small person of many, many, many who portray themselves one way, but are not. This whole thing is absolutely full of deception as far as religions go. This movement has hijacked ALL of the religions and used them for wars, etc. This is a Luciferian movement. The twelve above the Committee of 300 are all luciferine. These are the bad people, the "cream of the crop" of all of our organized religions. They worship money and power. Most people emphasize the words "love" or "money" in the following phrase, "The love of money is the root of all evil." But the word to focus on is "all." Money gives this group power and they cannot get enough and the whole purpose underlying everything is to beat God. Their definition of god is gold, oil and drugs. There may be some who are deceived and are actually Christian, Jewish, Catholic, but mostly they know what they are doing and who they worship and it is NOT the God of Abraham, Joseph and Isaac. This elitist group has nothing to do with Jesus. When you see them bow their heads, it is not Jesus they speak to nor his (our) Father.
On the other hand, believe it or not, there are a few, very few patriots of integrity among the elites, or at least in the CFR. I am not at all sure how to identify them.
Yes, remember Dr. Paul said he lost elections in the past where he think there has been fraud. It all leads to Karl Rove as the culprit. I read on LRC
the other day that Karl Rove was also involved in the 1984 senate race of Dr. Paul vs. the infamous - recession is only in the mind - Phil Gram and also in Texas he fought with Bush 1&2 against Dr. Paul. Rove also helped Bush 2 to be governor. If it was not for Rove, I am sure Dr. Paul would have been a senator or governor a decade or more ago already and may have been president already, or would have been the presumptive nominee now. Rove probably had something to do with Diebold in NH, they were so afraid of Dr. Paul. If Dr. Paul would have had say 13-15% or more in NH - as I think he probably had, he would have had a lot of momentum to fare quite well in the other primaries before Super Tuesday.
As others have noted, if this represents something real and genuine that can be proven, then it might be the crack that causes the electronic voting dam to break.
_________________________________________
"An economy built on fiat money is a society on its way to ashes."
That statement has been what I have been hanging onto through this whole thing. And so far, MUCH has come out, but it is absolutely amazing and devastating how it all gets swept into no man's land. The media is in total control. Is there anything that can be done about anything any more. That is why for years now we have been warning that "government" is getting so huge it is controlling the people instead of the people being in control of their government. At some point, it tips the balance, and it appears that it has been accomplished. We need our own media. All we have is a little radio, very darn little. We have no tv station at all.
saw it months ago. This is the kind of thing that just tears me up inside because all of this stuff comes to light and I watch it and think, ok, now it is over for them and then NOTHING. Just NOTHING. Everything against these people just goes into a black hole. How do we stop the madness???
when he provides evidence that US Military votes for Kerry (as opposed to Bush) were thrown out because it looked "suspect" that so many voters lived at the "same adress" (a military base) and when their inquiry was returned unread (because the voters were on the battlefeild) they (the very same people who sent them to war) were free to consider the issue of residency /legitamcy unchallenged and therefore discarded the votes of the very same people giving their lives for our country. Pure evil. Thanks for that video Fight4 www.dvds4delegates.com
1. (noun) In west Texas, a desert wild flower that grows up out of a meadow muffin.
2. (proper noun) G.W. Bush's nickname for Karl Rove.
3. (slang) any positive consequence (beauty) that comes from something unwholesome(shit)
1. "Ma, that there's the purtiest turd blossom I've seen in miles."
2. "We'll get Turd Blossom to out Wilson's wife (Valerie Plame) to Novak."
Our country cant begin the 20 year healing process it will take from the damage these criminals have caused until their whole house of cards falls- Let it start with Rove. www.dvds4delegates.com
I wonder when this trial is going to take place, and how those douchebags, Rove and Conell are going to get out of this one? This reminds me of one of my favorite Ron Paul Quotes "The purpose of government is to protect the secrecy and the privacy of all individuals, not the secrecy of government."
This paragraph I found particularly interesting and potentially damning...
"Data Expert to Testify on Voting Irregularities
In addition to the other attorneys in the room, Arnebeck had Stephen Spoonamore on a speaker phone. Spoonamore, a graduate of the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania who specializes in data security and designing computer systems to “hunt for fraud” for credit card companies and banks, among other clients, said electronic voting systems can never be secure. Moreover, he emphasized that had the kind of voting irregularities that happened in 2004 with “down ticket” candidates in Ohio, when compared with votes for president, happened with his main stay clients, “someone who have been arrested and would be in jail.”
Shine Brightly
In God We Trust!
The light will always overcome the darkness!
This is the kind of stuff
the delegates in St. Paul need to know...
We must make sure the delegates in St. Paul know about the election fraud. The delegates must know that the popular elections do NOT express or reflect the true will of the people because they are fixed.
New Hampshire, Louisiana, Montana, Nevada, Washington...
If ALL the delegates are educated and informed about the corruption and fraud within our election process, they will be that much more likely to rEVOLT on the convention floor in St. Paul, MN at the RNC.
The early primary and caucus results from the 2008 election cannot be trusted.
We must connect the Rove fraud with the most recent elections, not 2004.
Blow, blow, blow
Louder, louder.
Wp all I got to say to that post is
Amen!
Here is the whole article (again)
http://www.bradblog.com/?...
Some people might not realize they need to click on the title in the original post because it doesn't have a line under it.
Is this the reason Rove left the country??? I keep seeing that he left the country, but I haven't read the posts about his leaving.
I believe Rove left the
I believe Rove left the country because he was pending arrest for contempt of Congress.
SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States
I quit watching FAUX News,
but wasn't he (Rove) a regular commentator there?
Yep
I quit watching too and yes he was, wonder if he is in the country and on Faux or if he is gone?
I agree with you
In the 40's and 50's when people where so trusting these people where sending jesuit's into churches and moving up through the organitations and getting into baptizmal records and also bringing in new beliefs into the church. They have divided people in this country into so many little parts. They are the ones who introduced the belief that all the prophecies for the end time actually happend back in the romans time and the only thing left to happen was the rapture before the final 7 years (pre trib)
good points
http://www.flickr.com/pho...
Here is the link to the longer article, in case you missed it.
If you only read the first piece of this and didn't click on the headline you missed alot of information here.
www.bradblog.com/?p=6189#...
This is extremely important news, if we never get rid of "electronic voting" we will never truly have free elections. Also, is quite interesting that here in Ohio the Attorney General that was in office when the case was started is now no longer the Ohio Attorney General... due to a sex scandal. Hmm! Makes you wonder.
PAYBACK, HOW SWEET IT IS!
I understand that Rove's attorney informed the Judiciary Committee that he had a "business meeting" out of the country!!! HAHAHAHA, wonder how long that meeting will last?
I've seen this happen many times, WHAT GOES AROUND, COMES AROUND, eventually!
Direct Representation
will eliminate corruption because representatives will be immediately accountable to the people.
There will be no elections. Every person has one vote. They can either give their vote to a representative or vote directly. Representatives will have power based on the number of votes they receive.
Direct representation is...
pure democracy. Dangerous and unstable.
We already have a great system of representation for both the people and the states... it's outlined in the U.S. Constitution. Our politicians just ignore it.
For example...
Did you know that the 2 senators from each state are not supposed to be elected by popular vote, but rather selected by the state legislature? This is to help protect state's rights. The states are supposed to be represented by the senators, and the people represented by the representatives in the House.
From this article...
http://media.www.utahstat...
"One of the greatest checks provided by the Framers to prevent the national government from taking power from the states was the Senate. Article 1: Section 3 of the Constitution mandated that "The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state, chosen by the Legislature thereof." This was done for a variety of reasons. One of those reasons was to provide a link between the state governments and the federal government. The senators would be expected to represent the interests of the states. The Senate would have the power to stop any law proposed by the House of Representatives that would allow the federal government to exercise control over the states.
Unfortunately, this important check was eliminated in 1913 by the Seventeenth Amendment. That amendment mandated that senators be chosen directly by the people, a provision that many of the Framers warned would be destructive of the balance of power between the national government and the states. Fisher Ames, a member of the Massachusetts state convention to ratify the Constitution and later a member of the House of Representatives, warned the direct election of senators by the people would "totally obliterate the federal features of the Constitution. What would become of the state governments, and on whom would devolve the duty of defending them against the encroachments of the federal government?"
This mistake has made it much more possible for all three branches of the federal government to exercise more authority over the states. The result has been a larger, more intrusive, and less efficient national government. The growth of the federal government has also served to greatly weaken the power of the states. Originally, the national government was to be dependent on the states. Gradually, that balance has been lost as states have become increasingly more dependent on the federal government.
A crucial step in returning power to the states is the repeal of the Seventeenth Amendment. It is also essential that the states become more independent and resist attempts of the federal government to extend its power into areas in which the states should be responsible. This would help reduce the size of the federal government and increase the freedom of American citizens."
All of our problems stem from not following our own constitution. The following video that shows why we need to follow it if we're ever going to be a free republic, and also why direct democracy is a bad idea...
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
Seems like 1913 was the year the whole constitution went out the window, thanks to the central bankers and their puppet Woodrow Wilson.
I've been watching you post this
and I agree it is a very interesting proposition. I am thinking it is only a possibility after we have installed Ron Paul in the White House. In other words, with this corrupt government, it would be hard to get this passed. Of course, with our voter fraud, it is probably not JUST the elections that have been hijacked. Any vote that did not go the way they wanted it, has also probably been changed to be in line with their plan.
Elections are unnecessary.
You just go down to the county clerk's office and switch your representative. That's the beauty of direct representation.
It's not "mob rule" because the alliances change with every new bill.
Right
I've been saying this movement and all third parties absolutely must get rid of the voting system or all is for naught. That goes for November. We have to have 100% Exit Poll, or Paper Ballots that are three ply with someone besides the parties counting the votes. I cannot believe we let these crooked parties count the votes.
A 100% exit poll should have been organized before the primaries, but instead we had a useless call the vote in that we wasted our time on.
Not surprising
This is the time when everything that was being suppressed will start to come out into the open. A couple of things that came to mind though was he used to be part of the McCain campaign? I wonder what happened there. Second, if it is proven that Bush was put into office as a result of election fraud, would that mean that everything that he made into law would be nill and void (like a fraudulant contract) ? Any great DP legal minds out there? It would sure change a lot of things, such as "just come home", the Patriot Act, etc, etc, etc.
Impeaching him would take
Impeaching him would take care of voiding most of what he has done. That is why no one wants to do it. It is a travesty.
Great DP legal minds
We have needed those from the beginning and have none. The attorneys are in the two party system. The Bar Association is one of the organizations in the CFR. The only attorney I know that is one of us is in France!! Colognepaulist who comes on here. Thank goodness there is one attorney in the world at least that I can point to as a decent person. Thank you Colognepaulist for simply existing.
Wow....short article, but loved every
word of it.....paper ballots, I say...
Dugg....
Whole article
is available if you click the title.
Its about time this
information comes out...maybe the system will become honest.
It would be great if this
It would be great if this put the crack in their armor to start taking the whole lot of them down. However, I'm not confident they can't evade this one as they have all the rest of their crimes. Its completely lawless in government.
Hope they don't sweep this one under the rug
www.dvds4delegates.com the newest and possibly the greatest weapon the Revolution now possesses.
great post. Thanks!!
It also reminds me
I read Hitchens said Karl Rove is not a Christian, he just pretend to be one,
so you have not know what a liar he is. I do accept there are non-Christians that can be trurthful, but those of you will agree with me that it is very dishonest to portray yourself as a CHristian only to get the confidence and vote of a large amount of voting block.
Oh my goodness,
Karl Rove is only one small person of many, many, many who portray themselves one way, but are not. This whole thing is absolutely full of deception as far as religions go. This movement has hijacked ALL of the religions and used them for wars, etc. This is a Luciferian movement. The twelve above the Committee of 300 are all luciferine. These are the bad people, the "cream of the crop" of all of our organized religions. They worship money and power. Most people emphasize the words "love" or "money" in the following phrase, "The love of money is the root of all evil." But the word to focus on is "all." Money gives this group power and they cannot get enough and the whole purpose underlying everything is to beat God. Their definition of god is gold, oil and drugs. There may be some who are deceived and are actually Christian, Jewish, Catholic, but mostly they know what they are doing and who they worship and it is NOT the God of Abraham, Joseph and Isaac. This elitist group has nothing to do with Jesus. When you see them bow their heads, it is not Jesus they speak to nor his (our) Father.
On the other hand, believe it or not, there are a few, very few patriots of integrity among the elites, or at least in the CFR. I am not at all sure how to identify them.
Good find, Katie!
Yes, remember Dr. Paul said he lost elections in the past where he think there has been fraud. It all leads to Karl Rove as the culprit. I read on LRC
the other day that Karl Rove was also involved in the 1984 senate race of Dr. Paul vs. the infamous - recession is only in the mind - Phil Gram and also in Texas he fought with Bush 1&2 against Dr. Paul. Rove also helped Bush 2 to be governor. If it was not for Rove, I am sure Dr. Paul would have been a senator or governor a decade or more ago already and may have been president already, or would have been the presumptive nominee now. Rove probably had something to do with Diebold in NH, they were so afraid of Dr. Paul. If Dr. Paul would have had say 13-15% or more in NH - as I think he probably had, he would have had a lot of momentum to fare quite well in the other primaries before Super Tuesday.
Big bump
for Freedom.
More info
http://rawstory.com/news/...
I'm very interested in seeing how this story develops.
As others have noted, if this represents something real and genuine that can be proven, then it might be the crack that causes the electronic voting dam to break.
_________________________________________
"An economy built on fiat money is a society on its way to ashes."
If this is real, its big.
If this is real, its big.
REMEMBER...What Ron Paul said some time back.....that
There were things that would come out before the election....
I just keep going back to that
In Christ,
Dave
www.lionandlambministry.c...
www.lionandlambtv.com
Me too
That statement has been what I have been hanging onto through this whole thing. And so far, MUCH has come out, but it is absolutely amazing and devastating how it all gets swept into no man's land. The media is in total control. Is there anything that can be done about anything any more. That is why for years now we have been warning that "government" is getting so huge it is controlling the people instead of the people being in control of their government. At some point, it tips the balance, and it appears that it has been accomplished. We need our own media. All we have is a little radio, very darn little. We have no tv station at all.
holy Crap Batman!!!!!
holy Crap Batman!!!!! election fraud? and it can be proven? I hope this guy has a place to hide! Hope he takes them down too!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
You have all seen this?
→ http://www.brasschecktv.c...
WOW! This video needs its own thread.
I watched this all the way through and was stunned. Please watch this if you have not. I really think it needs its own thread so it is not buried.
So often we focus on the problems with the electronic voting machines we fail to realize that there are so many other ways to steal the vote.
"If you board the wrong train, it is no use running along the corridor in the other direction." Dietrich Bonhoeffer
Yes
saw it months ago. This is the kind of thing that just tears me up inside because all of this stuff comes to light and I watch it and think, ok, now it is over for them and then NOTHING. Just NOTHING. Everything against these people just goes into a black hole. How do we stop the madness???
wow...the most chilling part is at about 13:00
when he provides evidence that US Military votes for Kerry (as opposed to Bush) were thrown out because it looked "suspect" that so many voters lived at the "same adress" (a military base) and when their inquiry was returned unread (because the voters were on the battlefeild) they (the very same people who sent them to war) were free to consider the issue of residency /legitamcy unchallenged and therefore discarded the votes of the very same people giving their lives for our country. Pure evil. Thanks for that video Fight4
www.dvds4delegates.com
Supporting the troops
Bump for the men & women who deserve to be heard & counted!
I hope Karl Rove is sweating more than usual
From the Urban Dictionary :1. turd blossom
1. (noun) In west Texas, a desert wild flower that grows up out of a meadow muffin.
2. (proper noun) G.W. Bush's nickname for Karl Rove.
3. (slang) any positive consequence (beauty) that comes from something unwholesome(shit)
1. "Ma, that there's the purtiest turd blossom I've seen in miles."
2. "We'll get Turd Blossom to out Wilson's wife (Valerie Plame) to Novak."
Our country cant begin the 20 year healing process it will take from the damage these criminals have caused until their whole house of cards falls- Let it start with Rove.
www.dvds4delegates.com
Jerk Rove out hard
to make the house of cards tumble fast.
Talk about a potential powder keg...
I wonder when this trial is going to take place, and how those douchebags, Rove and Conell are going to get out of this one? This reminds me of one of my favorite Ron Paul Quotes "The purpose of government is to protect the secrecy and the privacy of all individuals, not the secrecy of government."
This paragraph I found particularly interesting and potentially damning...
"Data Expert to Testify on Voting Irregularities
In addition to the other attorneys in the room, Arnebeck had Stephen Spoonamore on a speaker phone. Spoonamore, a graduate of the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania who specializes in data security and designing computer systems to “hunt for fraud” for credit card companies and banks, among other clients, said electronic voting systems can never be secure. Moreover, he emphasized that had the kind of voting irregularities that happened in 2004 with “down ticket” candidates in Ohio, when compared with votes for president, happened with his main stay clients, “someone who have been arrested and would be in jail.”
I Drudged it
Would be great if Matt would post it.
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Ohio Attorneys to Assert
Ohio Attorneys to Assert RICO Claim Against Karl Rove for Orchestrating Theft of 2004 Election
http://thejournal.eplurib...
Don't forget to digg it.
CommissiononPresidentialDebates
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GOP whistleblower names Karl
GOP whistleblower names Karl Rove in Ohio's 04 election theft
http://www.opednews.com/a...
yeeeeee haaaaaaaaaw
and shuckie durn!!! What nice news.... I say we dance on the tables tonight.
God exists!
http://www.flickr.com/pho...
Can anyone confirm?
It doesn't sound likely that this happened, but if it did this is great news...Can anyone confirm?